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Hello everyone, hi, hi Mamas, hi, ig friends, how are you Okay? So I can hear you, you can hear me. I think we are good to go, yeah, yes, okay, I had a ring light but it is not working, so we're just gonna go with it. But I don't know. I'm excited, I can't believe we're live and we just wanted to do something fun and exciting and share some fun stories from Mamas around, kind of make it like an ask, share, take what you need, kind of vibe and have a little fun with it to bring more awareness. And you know, so we're just excited to take you on this journey with us and see what it evolves into. So today we're going to be sharing two stories and give a little bit of a take on them, just to get a feel for everything. And, of course, if anything comes up, we'll kind of go from there. So we both will have some notes that we're going to read so we can like literally read the story, just FYI.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I don't know, if you just want to get started with story one, we can kind of chat about that, because that one's kind of a it's a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll read the first one. I'm going to read it off and then we can chat about it, cool.
Speaker 2:Okay, good.
Speaker 1:All right. So, and I'm reading it from here I did take out one thing, though, or not take it out, I just will skip over something. But anyway it says nothing super shocking, but I just had a baby three months ago. You know the drill baby girl looks nothing like me but looks like her father from head to toe. I was shopping with her at Walmart no cart just trying to get some formula and pushing her in a stroller. Some lady stops me and says oh my gosh, what a cute baby, but where's her mother? Are you babysitting? I giggle and tell her that I am her mother. She just looks more like her father than she does like me.
Speaker 1:For context, my skin color is very light tan, I have straight black hair with dark brown eyes, and I'm Asian Pacific Islander. My baby is darker than I am, has light brown hair with hazel eyes, and, since her dad is half black, her hair is also curly. She said in disbelief that there was no way that this baby was mine and I looked too young to have a baby, hence why she thought I was babysitting. She said I look like a college freshman. I told her I'm 27 years old and pushed her out three months ago, after I showed her a picture of me, her and her daddy in the hospital, she apologized after complimenting my baby one more time and left about her merry way. Lmao. It's like people forget that babies don't always look like their birth mommas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one, because I have had plenty of comments about my daughter not looking anything like me and that doesn't offend me in a way. But just overall, if you have the nerve to go up to someone and you know like, oh you babysitting one, I don't even know if I'd go up to someone and ask that. I personally don't see myself going up to someone and just be like, oh you babysitting. If the kids are cute, then comment about that. But I don't know if I would make that assumption or comment. First thing.
Speaker 2:But I guess it's just weird to the amount of like assumptions that come from people outside. You know, when you're at the grocery store or you're at a park with your kid and that kind of stuff like that's where it gets kind of odd. Some of the offhanded comments that I've heard that people have received, or like the offhanded comments that like even I have friends that have received some not exactly like this one, but along the lines of something where you'd have to go pretty far out to make the comment. So I just thought it was so interesting to read that and I was like why I guess like why in a in appearance wise, would you go out of your way to make the comment when you could ask a question instead, which I get. She asked the question babysitting, but why not ask another question instead of just kind of like asserting that comment there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. I'm sure the lady means well, but to me it was a little like intense. I am just not bold enough to like go up to somebody and be like, is that not your baby? Like I don't know. In one way that's not my business?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's none of my business. I mean I know there are some scary stories out there and you do, I don't know. You want to be aware if something looks off and the child looks scared or something like I mean there are things right. But yeah, I mean I'm just 100% not bold enough to like involve myself into people's lives. It's just like not necessary.
Speaker 1:But the one thing and I think it's totally okay like getting compliments and complimenting the baby, maybe asking questions or sharing a story about, like you know, when your kids were young, or something I love when people come up and do that or some you know, because it's just like interacting, like community building, and I think that's so much fun. But like I don't know, questioning like if I'm their mom or even if, because even if you weren't, what if I was their stepmom? But I love them completely like they might not have him come from me but they could still be my child, like. So you know, there's just different things, but for me the kicker that I read was when I showed her a picture of the three of us in the hospital and I was like, okay, you know what? I don't? I would, I just wouldn't share the picture like there's, either it's no.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, you do not need to Like solve this for her or like make her see out of all the things. I mean, if you wanted to in the conversation went that way. I mean by all means, but by you know. But I guess where I'm going is that you don't you don't ever need to like justify anything for somebody.
Speaker 2:That's the part that got me exactly, and also I just saw the comment. The unsociety comments are so insane and that is so true. They can be so random and some can be like really bold, and they're the questions or Comments that they make about so many moms and so many different situations. It's just so crazy to just see all of these Other, either sometimes the moms, or sometimes they're like random strangers, you know, you know if they're a parent, and they just like make these assumptions or tell you how you should be Running your family and all these things, because I received some other stories that they didn't want to share, but they just mean, you know, these wanted like some solidarity and there are just some comments that were Weird to me that when you just go out to a grocery store with your kid and you choose something or you choose to not do something, and the first thing is that, like so many people notice and they just choose to say something and it's just like I Don't know, I don't know where the you know the audacity comes from, because I can't imagine ever doing that or, and, like you said, I'm not bold enough to ever go up to someone and even if I felt strongly about something, if it's not, you know, in terms of like safety.
Speaker 2:If it's not Unsafe directly to me myself or my family, then I don't see the need that you have to impose your opinions on other people. It's just.
Speaker 1:I mean I think there's times where I mean I've seen out like a parent or I don't know parent figure, who knows who they were to the kid, like yelling at them or being like a little aggressive. And there's been a few times once I've said something and a few times where I'm like I Feel like I should say something and the times I don't, I feel like that about it. So yeah, when someone's like crossing the line, absolutely you should say something you know or like bring attention to it. But I don't know, take it like I heard that there's this girl, a woman I used to follow, and she's very big in like the Like things being healthy and not just to like a small story to give context.
Speaker 1:And she's very big on saying like hey, I would rather tell somebody and call people out on like what they're consuming, because I care about them and I love them. Like I'd rather you be mad at me and know that that product could eventually like kill you or something. Then not, and I'm like I get it because it's like I mean I literally had a conversation with her and she was like I mean to me that's the ultimate love. Like you've got to be able to tell people the hard things and I was like I yeah, I don't know, because one time I was eating these little crackers on the story and I gave one to my kid one of my children and Somebody messaged me like damned me and was like do you know that? Those have like whatever in it? And sent me like the picture of I don't know whatever that app is that shows you like the ratings or which I don't really look at me, I know, maybe I should get the name, yeah, and I was like, okay, so it has trans fats.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously it's like a cracker cookie thing. You know what I mean. Like I know what it is, I'm not sitting here with my baby eating like 15 of them at once. We had a cracker here and there, right, and so, yeah, I'm torn between like coming up and like saying something, like inserting your opinion, and like letting people be like I.
Speaker 2:There's got to be lines and limits, but more on the more often than not, I kind of side with, I mean, as long as it's not detrimental, like mind your business, kind of yeah, yeah and on the other side of that, like I get, wanting to reach out and be informative, like to give you the information that, in case you don't know, or you know, like sometimes and I've heard this a lot on, like public forums, that not undo and Doritos have like the dyes in them and you know, like a lot of people just kind of make like a PSA to everyone that these have these things in it. So you can make the choice. And that's where, like I feel that that is fine. If you want to give the information, like here's a go, take it or leave it. Now that's one thing, but the answer is like Advice, or once they, you know, give you the information they're pushing like so what are you gonna do now?
Speaker 1:It's just kind of well, I think it's one thing to do the PSA like on your own platform and on your own whatever. Like you know you can share, but don't don't give me the PSA in my DMs. Like you know what I mean. Yeah, if I wanted to find out more about it, I would, or whatever. Like I don't know. I go both ways because I don't like I mean, yeah, I, I don't want to like watch people like I'm not sure what the answer is, I don't know, go down a terrible path, but I don't know. It's also not my business. Like I think that's part of like a boundary conversation and different things. If you're not asked, it's not your business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that's the same with like body and what people are consuming, like no food, please, or anything like I don't know, yeah, and like with that it's just it's hard, because I know we talked about this in our last episode too a little bit, the one before today actually. So kind of getting to the point where there's choices that you can like make before you go and engage anyone and there's kind of like the stop and think process before you choose to say something to someone and that's kind of like how would this make me feel and how are you trying to come off? Are you? Is there any even the tiniest bit that you know in yourself like malicious intent, like anything like that? Is there a way that you could be mom shaming and you don't want to do that?
Speaker 2:So it's just kind of like there's a fine line and a lot of the time the line is very clear and other times the line's not very clear because you know other people can take things wrong or might not want anything and all, which is why sometimes you just have to ask the question if, like, are you looking for advice and I know when you brought that up before it's just like do you want advice or are you open to taking advice and sometimes it's hard to ask because you don't stop and think.
Speaker 2:But if you, the more you do it, the more it's gonna become just like a habit thing and it just makes it easier on everyone in the situation, because you know there's things like even down to like car seats where that might be a little bit harder, or for people to ask that question Because a lot of the time people are gonna say like no, or it comes. I just seen a lot of like back and forth about this on mom groups and the mom groups of course, are a different breed altogether, but just like the, you know, when it comes down to safety and those things, it can be harder. But always asking the question if they're open to advice might make it easier for them to one be receptive and take your advice, which then, if it's coming from a good place, helps you feel better about you know what you're giving them, especially, like I said, if it's about safety and they're more willing to take the advice or change something. You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think for the most part we're all like adults and smart adults at that, and you kind of know like what's right, what's wrong, what might be okay to bring up and what might not be okay to bring up, and I don't know. Just trying as best as possible to use our better judgment. You know when things like that come up and you know, for the example that was given, like I'm sure she totally meant well, like completely, and maybe it was just overall very, very curious and I probably would have had a conversation too, just because it's simple to do and whatever. But I just wouldn't have like gone the extra mile to show that I was this child's mom, like yeah, exactly, I don't know if I would have gotten out my photos and been so willing.
Speaker 2:I just would have been like, yeah, she's mine, bye now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of without my day for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the hard part, because someone makes you feel so insecure that you have to show them a picture or like you feel like the need to have to like validate that they're yours. And I'm sure they have gotten so many comments about that because their skin tone might be different or their hair texture might be different, because that must be so hard after like so long of hearing about all of those things that to you know, to the mom, might be small, and then, as more comments arise, it's just like what? Like I know I don't look the exact same as my child, but like that's not my concern. But you know, like I said, the more comments you make, the more it's gonna be on her mind and she probably just felt so like that she needed to validate that to someone because you know it might have been like the fifth or seventh time I've heard it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, it's definitely not easy. I think that kind of segues, this same kind of line and conversation, kind of segues into our second story, if you want. Do you want to read that one?
Speaker 2:Can you actually read it, only Because I don't know how my thought goes? Yeah, I'll read it.
Speaker 1:I'll read it. Yeah, I want to bring this story up so we can kind of it's. You know there's some things that are similar in terms of the take on it. So story two is I, 27 F, got mom shamed for both breastfeeding and bottle feeding. I was usually shamed yeah, I was usually shamed for doing it in public, even got dirty looks for nursing in my car. My girl never liked bottles or pacifiers. My mother-in-law constantly told me that bottle feeding would be better and easier. Every time we saw her it was you have to get this baby on a bottle With pacifiers, she said. Just shove it in her mouth and don't let her spit it out.
Speaker 1:My supply dropped around five months and my daughter's weight was dropping too. My husband was working out of state and I was a stressed out mess. My daughter hated the bottles and formula and wanted nothing to do with it for a long time. I tried so many different things during that time and finally I went straight to a soft tipped sippy and she took it. Family shamed me for my daughter's loss of weight and others would also ask me how long I breastfed and gave me judgmental looks as if it wasn't long enough. This was mostly mom's my age humble, bragging and saying will.
Speaker 1:I breastfed mine until they were a year old. If I told them how my supply dropped, they'd say well, there are lots of products out there to help that you shouldn't have tried. Or you should have tried insert herbal tea or whatever. That did nothing for me. So now that my daughter is 15 months, I'm getting judged for not going back to work after the first year and not putting her in daycare. She's ahead in some developmental areas but a little behind in others. But all anyone can focus on are the ones she's behind in. I'm pregnant with my second, so lots of opinions about how I have them so close. Being a mom is exhausting.
Speaker 2:That last line, yep, it is exhausting, like you have the physical aspects of it, especially when you bring home a newborn and you have no sleep and you know it doesn't stop there, because this past week I've not been any sleep. But you know you're exhausted. You have so much to figure out and, depending on the type of support system you have, if you have like a village already established, then some things may be easier. If you have, you know the resources to do those things like get more sleep or, you know, have the help around the house and that kind of stuff. But if you don't, you're pretty alone and like a single mom even more so. And the list goes on. This is like you know newborn and you're just getting home.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine having that on top of all this stuff that this mom is going through and having to hear, and the judgment, because you try one thing and you can't win, and you try another thing and you still can't win, and we talk about this so many times.
Speaker 2:It's that I can't win, there's nothing that you can do and I get. Obviously we've talked about how you can kind of get over some of those feelings if you kind of internalize your own, you know, support and all the stuff for yourself, but it's it doesn't make it any easier, it it doesn't. So people are going to be saying things to you and making these judgment calls kind of for you, because they don't know what's going on in your head, they don't know what's going on with your body, they don't know what the doctor has said to you. They're just making a judgment based on exactly what they feel, because a lot of time they're projecting and or they just they have strong opinions without understanding the facts, and that, like I said, just makes it ten times harder for anyone in that situation yeah, I mean, I totally agree.
Speaker 1:I mean, being a mom in itself is exhausting, just like she said. And on top of dealing with unforeseen opinions, when you're learning because that's exactly what parenthood is like there's, you know, as many books as there are out there. You learn on the fly because every child is different too right, so you have to learn how to parent for that kid. Yeah, so it is exhausting and you know you go from being burnt out to barely surviving when you're dealing with, like, what everybody is like putting on you and saying, and you know. So, first off for this mama, I am so sorry that you would deal with a lot of these opinions, unsolicited at that and boundaries are going to be your best friend.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know that they're not easy to implement and a lot of times, a lot of us get it wrong when we're starting to implement boundaries and do that. But they're here to protect your peace and they're here to try to find a way to you know, you know, just make you feel better about your decisions and things like. I'm no expert in boundaries, I'm learning about them myself but I do know that when you set them and establish them, it really does like give a sense of like, okay, no, I know this is what works for me and this is what doesn't, and I'm going to protect that like at all costs. You know, I mean, and yeah, I mean, I think that's I don't know, I think that's huge. Like I literally just want to give this mom like such a big hug because, like you said, and there's there's no winning and I hate that like even now and we talked about it on the podcast and I've heard it on many like mom podcasts and different things is, like you know, we're trying to get out here and get rid of, like this mom guilt, this mom shaming, and especially the mom shaming, because we all know how hard it is, like I don't, I don't get it, you know, but it it always comes and you know. The thing, too is that it does.
Speaker 1:The reason I feel comfortable saying this next part is because I've done it and I felt it myself Is that it is a projection that, like you mentioned, it is needing something or Meaning to feel right, needing to feel like you're doing something there and wanting to be seen.
Speaker 1:There may be something going on with, like these other moms and I think that's a huge part of this of mom shaming is Is now you also don't feel like something's right. You maybe read the books, you've done the thing, and you're like, no, this is right, and you want just that to be seen, you want to be heard and I Get it. I mean, I, I definitely said something along those lines and in the way in which I said it, I don't like it and I regret that. But I do know where it was coming from. It was coming from another source of pain and that's just the cycle of all of this Shame like going around this entire time. You know like there's just no winning, and I know I said it in like the last podcast or the episode we just had about it. It's like at some point, like I just want to ask people can I live, can I like, can I do what I've got to do, like you know, without all of your negativity, you know.
Speaker 2:And I do give a few comments, the hugs for this moment and I feel yeah.
Speaker 2:It's both, I know it's just I sometimes I just wish and this is just me being an enneagram nine, it's just I wish I could like fix all of these things for everyone. Whenever I read these things or I talked to someone, or someone reaches out to me and it's just like I wish I could fix all of it for everyone, because I just I've been on that side of it so many times, from the breastfeeding To the bottle feeding to the pacifier. I've done all of it too. And my daughter didn't take a pacifier and I've had to play people question why we didn't use one. Or I've had people question If I just didn't give a tour to like savers, like ourselves. Some grief later because you know you, obviously you have to sometimes part with the pacifier when they get older.
Speaker 2:So I've just had people like question everything, like why am I still breastfeeding after 12 months? Or you know, like why did I choose to bottle feed sometimes? Or you know, like why am I still in nursing Physically when my daughter should be able to take a sippy cup? Like you know that those kind of comments and it's just, it's so tiring and it's like I Was pushed and the hospitals push and there's posters everywhere. There's, you know, there's stuff everywhere to breastfeed in the hospitals, especially the one that I was in and the one that my daughter now goes to for her pediatrician, and it's just why the Comments like about it after the huge push right, like I'm not think either side is necessarily like wrong. It's just like the way you like again, the way you do it is very important and it sounds like a lot of this mama in particular's experience is coming from friends and family and there are so many different ways that you can go about it, especially when you know someone. Like again, there are so many different ways you can like ask a question or you can phrase it differently and and Like why just come out and say like oh, you should be doing this, or I would have never done this, or I Did do this. Why aren't you doing like?
Speaker 2:You know, like as a mom, I Know that in that instance, right now, that my situation can be very individual because my daughter is very particular Like very, so do I do. I think that whatever is working for my child is gonna work for everyone else. No, well, I asked someone if I see that someone has posted or reached out to me, or Physically, seeing someone that is struggling with the same things that I struggled with. If they want something that has helped me, sure, again it's a question like I am coming from a good place, knowing that it has helped me save my sanity and all these things.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna try and help you, but I just the judgment, the quick to judge, like I see something that's not what I would do. This is wrong, like that. That mentality has somewhat been driven into us by society or by, you know, long-standing family, you know like expectation and pressure and all this stuff, and it's just like there is a choice that you can make and is either to continue that or to change that. So and I'm just, you know, we're just here trying to change that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely yeah, that was the point of having these like conversations and even the entire podcast. Right is to have be able to bring up different topics and and Bring to light different things and have opinions, I guess. But you know it's just, and you know how I feel about breastfeeding if you haven't listened to the podcast or you know the journey and in here, like what people don't, I think, see, when they ask, because there's a difference between asking and wanting like you know, genuine, genuinely curious about why something is happening. You know, maybe you're becoming a mom and you're like, oh well, why did you do that? I didn't even think about that. Whatever it might be right, yeah, so there's a huge difference with that and those questions are warranted or like not warranted. There, you know, they're okay. However, keep in mind that the person that you asked still doesn't have to answer that if they're not comfortable with it. You know, so that's something and it's like you know, I don't. You know, so, take that with a grain of salt when you ask the question. But with that, like you know, when I read her story, when she first said it into and I read it, our stories are different, but what resonated with me was the pain that's underneath, you know of. I mean it just is the constant battle of not being able to do it right, because, like you said, you are pushed to breastfeed and I thought I was going to be able to do it, I thought it was going to be easy. It wasn't for me, you know. And so if she's struggling at all with anything, and then on top of getting everybody's opinions of like things pushed, it's like you know, I mean we've just got to like rain it in a little bit here, you know, but I think that's kind of the takeaway.
Speaker 1:It's okay to ask, like context matters, it's okay to ask, it's okay to know things or be curious about things, but just know that you that every question doesn't necessarily deserve an answer. You know You're not just entitled to an answer because you ask it and especially if it may be coming from like a negative place, you know they mean so oh, yeah, yeah, it's kind of that thing. But yeah, absolutely, like this last comment, boobies, bottles, do what is best for for y'all, like legit, yes, do what is best like, because it is and it's easier said than done and maybe I feel, like you can, I can say it like, do what's best thing, nor the rest kind of thing. But Because, like you know, I've gotten to a place where I feel a little bit better about it, but at the same time it doesn't make it easier, you know, it just doesn't. So you can say a million times and we've said it on the podcast and we talk about it that at some point you just have to be okay with knowing that you're on the right path for you and it's making sense for you and it's working.
Speaker 1:But it is hard to feel that way when you know social media is constant this is right, this is wrong. Your family and friends this is right, this is wrong. Or opinions here, opinions there. So I mean you can just take it all in, just absorb everything as much as possible and then, like, create your own. You know, I, I, I. But yeah, I don't know, I feel, I feel a little angry, I'm not going to lie for this mama Like, oh, yeah, the patients I don't.
Speaker 2:They didn't exactly specify how they respond to these things. And I think that can be just as important because, like you said, like taking it all in as much as you can, Everyone has a breaking point there is. I've not met anyone who does not, or that I haven't seen really their breaking point, and I for sure have one. And I think in that moment, depending on how you're feeling, depending on how your temperament is and what you're dealing with, who you're dealing with, you have a choice. You can just take it and just like shrug it off, yeah, and respond by saying I respect your opinion, I understand where you're coming from, but that's not for me. Or you can, you know, be a little bit more assertive or aggressive with it. You know, like I don't appreciate that You're not having this conversation, you bring it up again. I'll ignore you, Like you know you can.
Speaker 2:Those boundaries are hard, very hard to set when you are in the moment, when you're being, you know you're being judged and you're being put down and all this stuff. It's incredibly hard and, yeah, very much to someone that agrees with that. So you know you're in the moment, I get it can be hard. But even if you just shut it down and say, thanks, I for your opinion and I just don't need it, Like, yeah, I'm not doing that. It's gonna be very short and simple, you don't have to be rude. But if you want to be rude again, they definitely came at you first.
Speaker 1:So you know, but have any sort of thing that they laid out, I'll be happy to read it Right.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think there are stages, right. The first time you ask or you say, like you know, I just I'm not interested in this conversation, whatever it is, it's nice, like actually in the in one of the books I was reading, she kind of specifies as like green light, yellow light, red light, so you start with green, you move to yellow and you move to red, like you know, just depending on the boundaries and the outcomes. But yeah, I mean, I definitely think you know you have to be like a little bit stronger and I like one of the comments she said I breastfed at 18 months and I don't tolerate people who say anything. I say if you're uncomfortable, you don't have to be here and, realistically, that's the truth. If you don't want to see it, if you don't want to be here, don't, you know you can.
Speaker 1:You have the choice to move on. But as a parent, I'm taking care of my baby, I'm feeding my baby, I'm doing what needs to be done. You know you have a choice too. You know what I mean and my choice is that I'm going to put my baby's needs first and it is what it is Like I, you know. There should be no apologizing for that, I guess, and that in that instance you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like there's no apology needed for that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I mean I think they both kind of go along the lines of like just unsolicited opinions and you know, kind of having to take everything in and adjust and kind of like the boldness of people being able to do that. But I don't know, I guess, at the end of the day, kind of like can you, when you're coming up to somebody, to one thing that I've learned over the course of time and I wish I learned it a long time ago, because it does save some relationships is literally mind your business, because how somebody is living their life is not, realistically, it's not your business, even though you know they're making the wrong decision. You know that it could be easier the other way. Maybe you've done it before, maybe, whatever it is, lessons need to be learned, like unfortunately, and sometimes you know going through it is the best way to learn it and literally it'll just save, like, the relationship.
Speaker 1:I mean asking that question that we've talked about before are you looking for like answers or are you looking for comfort? What is it that I can provide? Because sometimes your friend, your sister-in-law, your mother-in-law, whoever is coming to you with something and it's like they just want to be heard and I want to hear you and I want to support you. If you're coming to me to fix it quote-unquote, you can't fix it for somebody but to give you know, to get like a solution or an opinion, then I can provide that too. But let's ask first, because other than that, mind your business, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that goes for so many things, and I know sometimes in relationships it can depend, because some people think that they have like the authority or the permission to just come at you with whatever they want. So sometimes you have to kind of bring that back and reel them in, which is, you know, it's fine and if you are worried about the relationship, they didn't respect you to begin with. If they can't respect that, so it's just kind of it's a whole big thing and it feels a lot bigger than it needs to be, but only because of what we've already had to deal with with society, kind of like putting that in that you know we mom shame and we judge things that aren't perfectly by the book, even though if you're perfectly by the book, we'll also judge you for being too perfect. So you know it's just like you said you can never win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I mean, unfortunately there's there's not a lot of winning going on, but the more conversations we have, the more like, the more we get used to just, you know, being nice and maybe asking those questions like how can I, how can I be supportive of you now?
Speaker 1:Or being receptive. If you ask like a question, like that woman in the first story asks like, oh, are you the mom? Like, you know, when the person doesn't want to answer you or doesn't, you know, says yes, I am like and kind of is standoffish, then you just got to let it be what it is Like. You know you don't need any more answers, so you either are going to be bold enough to ask, ask the question, then you're just going to have to deal with the answer you kind of get like you're not entitled to anything else, kind of thing. So, yeah, the more conversations, the more awareness, the more acceptance of where things are, I think the better, and so hopefully, you know, we can continue to do that throughout and with the podcast and share a lot of things. I had a really good time, a lot of fun. I liked seeing some of the comments come in and like being interactive and everything.
Speaker 2:I kind of like this. I wish we could do it like you know, the actual podcast, like episodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, the good news is I think we'll do it more often. We wanted to see how it kind of went and wanted to see, like you know, that kind of vibe. So you know, we'll set up a cadence and we'll let everybody know and one of the podcast recordings, because we're still going to post it on the podcast in case you miss it or want to like go back. So those will always be available. But we will work on getting like a submission thing kind of up, because I think it's fun, I think it just brings awareness and it helps us to talk about stories that or topics or things that are top of mind for all of our mamas out there. So I love it.
Speaker 2:I had a good time. They can be wholesome. They can be wholesome content too. Yeah, we want to clear the wholesome stories, you know someone helping you out, or something?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and ask share, like, do you want an opinion? Like you can always label it with that when you're doing a submission, you know, ask, I want feedback on this story, I want whatever it is. You know whatever you're looking for, and we'll set up a queue. We have a couple other ones, so we'll set up a queue and kind of go from there. But, yeah, thank you for being here with us and for watching our first live. We were a little nervous if you couldn't tell me, but yeah, it went, I had a good time. So, thank you so much for being with us and we will see you on the podcast next week and, of course, on Instagram. We'll be here on our stories and our posts, so don't be afraid to share with us, dms, and let us know what you think about. You know all the content.
Speaker 2:We said it all, but thank you so much, guys. And it's, you know, it's fun to kind of tell the stories and hear from guys and really kind of try to interact, because that's what really what we're doing here so you're trying to interact with people, help people, do as much as we can, but yeah, we will see you next time and I think that's all we got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay well happy. Friday have a good weekend and bye mamas.
Speaker 2:Bye, mama.